This is for anybody applying for an industrial placement during their ‘sandwich year’ at IBM. It should hopefully provide insight for anybody hoping to work for IBM for that year from somebody who went through the process.
My particular placement is in Software Development, but I shall try to make this post general and about all of IBM’s placements.
NB: This article is entirely my own and does not reflect the opinions of IBM.
Information
The IBM Industrial Placement Scheme employs students expecting 2:1 classifications for their degrees during their ‘sandwich year’. This year goes between your 2nd and 3rd years, meaning that if you have a three-year degree, it becomes four-year degree.
Pay
You work for IBM for exactly one year, usually starting between July and September. They pay you £15,000 for the year before tax, as well as a £1,000 sign-on bonus which is paid in three parts by being added on to your first three months’ salary payments. If you stop working for IBM any time before you complete three months, the bonus money has to be given back.
If this is your only job, you will be paid and taxed as follows:
£15,000 salary + £1,000 bonus
For the tax year 2011/2012, the income tax-free allowance is £7,475, meaning this is how much of your salary is not income taxed at all. The rest of your salary is taxed at 20%.
So £7,475 + ( £8,525 x 0.8 ) = £14,295 for the year, including bonus.
Hang on, though. You still have to pay National Insurance (for state pension contribution). This is taxed at 11% of anything over £110 per week. At £16,000, the weekly salary works out at £16,000 / 52 = £307.69 per week.
So you are charged 11% of £307.69 – £110 per week, which is 11% of £197.69. This works out to £21.75 per week of National Insurance, which makes a total of £21.75 * 52 = £1130.80 of National Insurance to pay for the year. This makes your after-income-tax salary
Overall, then, you are paid:
£16,000 before tax.
£14,295 after income tax.
£13,164 for the year into your account.
Location
IBM have 26 locations in the UK, but only a few are likely to be taking Industrial Trainees. All Software Development students are placed at Hursley, where IBM’s Software Development labs in the UK are located.
When you attend the assessment centre, you are given a sheet of paper with about ten UK regions and told to tick the ones you are willing to work at. Note that Software Development students have no choice as Hursley is the only place they can go.
Recruitment Process
The recruitment process for IBM is fairly simple. I’ll take you through what I experienced as you are likely to go through (mostly) the same thing.
- Visit the Apply page to download a CV template. You do not submit your own CV but use IBM’s supplement, which is more like an application form.
- Fill in the CV template with relevant information. Try to use many examples in your descriptions — asserting that you are good at something means nothing without examples of ways you have demonstrated it in the past.
- Click the relevant ‘Apply Now’ link on the apply page to go through IBM’s recruitment pages. Fill in their forms, make sure all details are filled in (some people delay their forms by weeks due to missed out information like degree predictions, etc.) and that you upload your CV template.
- Once you receive a confirmation that your form was submitted, just wait.
- Soon, you should receive news about the next stage. If you are successful in the application form stage, you will hear from them about the Online Aptitude Test (IPATO). Since I completed my form early, I received this email within 10 days, but know people who received it after a month. Be patient.
- Within a couple of days of completing the aptitude test, you should receive news about whether you passed it. Information about the aptitude test is below.
- If you passed the test, you should be invited to an assessment centre. I received my invitation three minutes after the email about passing the test. Make sure to respond to the email to confirm your attendance. Information about the assessment centre is below.
- If you pass the assessment centre, you will receive an email within a few days telling you that you are in the matching process. This usually means you are accepted into IBM as an employee if they can find you somewhere to work. Information on matching is below.
- Once you are matched, you receive an informal job offer. This was on the phone for me. I accepted my offer at the time, but if you have other job applications and want to wait, I have heard there is a deadline of a few days for the decision.
- Once you accept the job offer, you will receive a set of documents by email about your job offer. The most important of these is your offer letter. This states when you start, who your manager will be, what their phone number is and other details about your job. At the bottom, it lists paperwork that must be completed and sent back to IBM.
This is mostly it. After this, your main task is to sort out your paperwork, have a chat with your manager to find out what you’ll be doing and do some research. Joining the Facebook group for the year’s Industrial Placement is always a good idea. It’s usually named ‘IBM Industrial Placement 2011/2012′ or similar, and only those who have an offer are allowed to join.
Aptitude (IPATO) Test
This is nothing to worry about if you are technically minded. No matter what you do, you cannot prepare for it, so honestly don’t waste your time trying.
Aside from being able to think logically and technically, the key to doing well in this is concentration. Make sure you have plenty of energy, you are very awake, you’ve had some cold water and that there are no sounds or distractions around you.
Furthermore, you are given another similar test at the assessment centre to make sure you did it, so cheating is both silly and infeasible.
Follow the instructions well and make sure you have pen and paper to hand, as well as a calculator. The questions are mostly to do with rearranging elements on a screen, identifying patterns and performing simple arithmetic calculations on simple ‘real life’ situations. Nothing more than GCSE maths is required, but perhaps brushing up on percentages and similar basic concepts would come in handy.
You are given a chance to complete an example test before the real one which should help dispel any incorrect assumptions or misconceptions. The questions are not hard — the difficulty is in how long you are given to complete them.
Assessment Centre
My assessment centre day was as follows:
- Arrived at IBM South Bank offices, take a guest ID badge from receptionist and sit in waiting area.
- Greet others and get to know them as they arrive and sit down.
- Met by two very friendly current Industrial Trainees (ITs) and taken to a meeting room.
- Take a timetable and a few forms in the meeting room and fill them out, as well as some drinks and biscuits.
- Sit through a couple of introductory talks from friendly recruitment people, the current ITs and some ‘foundation’ people (who take care of the well-being of IBM employees).
- Attend a ‘personal interview’ with a foundation person. This took something like half an hour and consisted of mainly background questions. The interviewer was very friendly, funny and did not make me feel pressured.
- Do a ‘team task’ within half an hour, involving sitting in front of a few recruitment people with other applicants and solving a task as a group. This is mostly to see what your teamwork skills are like.
- We would have had a ‘business interview’, which would be a more job-specific interview, but this didn’t happen at our particular assessment centre (the interviewers were not available that day).
- Do a second, different team task. This also involves solving a task as a group. Again, a few recruitment people sit silently and watch but do not answer questions.
- Lots of breaks in between for drinks and biscuits, as well as chatting with the current ITs.
This is it. It’s a very relaxing day (even with the interviews and tasks), and an enjoyable one too. I felt well prepared for the interviews and so had nothing to worry about.
Matching
This is an odd stage. Essentially, IBM like you as a person and want to offer you a job but as it is such a large company, they cannot have managers from all projects and departments interview you. Instead, they send your CV around to a set of managers and let you know if any of them are interested in you. This usually involves a phone call (often in the evenings, too) from a manager who wants to know a few things more about you to see if you’re right for their project.
In this stage, you are likely to get a job but not guaranteed. Unfortunately, this is a bit of a waiting game and you just have to be patient. Once somebody likes you, they might call you with some questions, ask you to come in for an interview or offer you the job without either (for me, it was the latter).
During the Placement
IBM do not provide accommodation during your placement, so you have to rent private accommodation nearby with your salary.
If you join the Facebook group for the Industrial Placement for your year, you can find others who are in your shoes willing to share a house with you. This works out fairly cheaply.
Your expenses are likely to include the following:
- Rent to a private landlord
- Half of your student tuition fees
- Electricity/gas/water
- Income tax/national insurance
- Travel expenses
- Food/clothing/socialising etc.
Fortunately:
- You get a work laptop to use for the year.
- Since you are still technically a student, you do not have to pay council tax as long as you fill in a student exemption form.
- You can still receive a partial maintenance loan from student finance bodies.
- You can live with other placement students in a house share, just like at university.
- IBM rewards gives you discounts for many retailers.
I hope this is helpful to people who are in the situation I was in not long ago. Please comment and let me know what you think or if you have any questions or suggestions.
62 Responses to “Applying for an IBM industrial placement – a complete guide”
Thank you! This should come in handy knowing what to expect!
Thank you for writing this, a lot of people will appreciate knowing more about the process especially from someone who has gone through it/has first hand experience.
Just had a read over this, also just passed the assessment centre myself and been invited to london for a second interview, so mine was a little different. Wish id found this before hand though. Fingers crossed!
@Jordan
Fingers crossed indeed. Good luck with it, you’re almost there :)
Very interesting, thanks for the information, great insight into the IBM recruitment process! It appears you had a very lucky time; interviewers were absent during your assessment day and you got a job offer via phone without being called in for an interview.
Was there not a competitive interview involved somewhere? I.e. why you would be the ideal candidate for the job, demonstrating your skills and past experiences working with others etc.
@Final Fantasy
My pleasure. I’m glad you found it useful.
There certainly was a competitive interview involved. That was the ‘personal interview’ I mentioned above. I didn’t go into any detail, but it involved exactly what you’re saying. A classic competency-based interview.
Why do you want the job, why do you want this company, what have you done in the past that reflects your teamwork/skills in X…
The ‘business interview’ was the one more specific to the job which would have been more about my technical knowledge and ability in software development.
This was a really really really really really really really handy guide! Thank you sooo much!! I appreciate it!! Wish you very good luck with your IBM experience
@Slava Sanins
Thank you for the comment. Great to hear you benefited from it.
Thanks, I wish you good luck in yours too.
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Currently in the matching process, got the e-mail that I was successful at the assessment centre the day after on Thursday, wasn’t suprised that I hadn’t heard back until Tuesday as it was the bankholiday weekend. No call on Tuesday unfortunatly, is there a chance that I might not get a placement due to it being really near the end of the year? I’ve had to turn down my other offers as they did not want to wait any longer to hear back from me (they’ve been waiting quite a while for me to hear back from IBM) so IBM is pretty much my only offer left.
Thanks.
@Lylat
Hey Lylat.
I’m sorry to hear you haven’t heard back. I wouldn’t really know whether or not IBM have filled all the places by now, but there is a great chance that they haven’t. Actually, given that you’re in matching, I should think that they have a place for you in the company and you’re safe in that sense. Right now, it’s a matter of finding you a place in the company suitable for you.
I’m not in any position to say how likely you are to get a placement, but what I can say is that matching took a while for me (and others) and you can do nothing but wait at this point. You should be optimistic about being in matching, though. There’ll be people looking at your CV around the company to see if they’ll take you on and this can take a while so just have heart and be patient.
Good luck, at any rate, you’ve done very well so far.
Horatio
Thank you for the quick response, so I take it you’re going to be at Hursley for 2011/2012? How’s looking for accomodation going as I’d most likely being in Hursley also (if they find me a role :) ).
Also about being called, did they e-mail you first or was it a phone call out of the blue?
@Lylat
Yes I’ll be working at Hursley, but I’ll probably be living in one of the towns around it (Hursley is a village so it’s unlikely to be a great place to live without a car).
I’m personally looking for a one-bedroom or studio flat, so I’m finding it a little tough. But hopefully some time in mid-May I’ll make a few viewing appointments and try to grab a place.
Everybody else I’ve come across is looking to share with others in a house share, and they’re finding each other on the Facebook group. If you get an official offer, you’ll be allowed into the group and will be able to converse with others to find some flatmates, so don’t worry about that.
I was called a few days after the matching email with no email notice. Try to be patient, I know it’s difficult. Apart from keeping your phone with you at all times, try to take your mind off it until you hear more. If they take a very long time (more than a few weeks), email them and see what the status is.
Horatio
@Horatio Caine
Yeah it’s just that I have another offer waiting for me and they’ve been ringing me asking for a reply and I’ve had to keep telling them that I’m waiting for IBM, if IBM turn around and say there’s no role and I’ve ignored the other offer then I’ll be in the dumps.
I think I’ll be looking for somewhere to live nearby also as I don’t really drive, I guess cycling would be okay.
Guess I’ll wait until the official offer kicks in and make my way from there.
Thanks for the help.
@Lylat
Well try to be optimistic and hope that IBM will give you that offer. Being in matching is most of the way there.
See you on the other side!
Ended up having to take a hybrid role involving business and software development, they called it “management information development”… the manager assured me I would have development responsibilities so I guess it’s not all too bad, but a bit of a let down as they contacted me with a different role that I was applying too. They said they ran out of software development positions as I applied during the last stages of the matching process. So a heads up to everyone, make sure you apply early if you’re planning to next year.
Oh and apparently I was supposed to be contacted 2 weeks earlier but there was a mix-up, if your application seems to be dragging on I would e-mail them to get it sorted out, I had to ring about 4 different people until I got a response but e-mailing seems to be a much quicker response also.
@Lylat
Ah okay, well congratulations on getting the job! Even though it’s not a fully technical role, I’m sure you’ll benefit from both parts. The business side is very important to your career too, it won’t go to waste.
Will you be at Hursley? If so, see you there in about two months’ time! :)
Yeah I’ll be in Hursley, see you then!
Hey guys, I got an email yesterday saying They had found a suitable role for me in milton keynes doing software dev however the email was quite vague as to if I were competing with other people for this role. It just basically said “there’s this role open you could do, still interested?”
From the way it sounds here ive been given an offer and obviously I replied back yes immediatedly but now the sender isn’t available until the 27th for some reason. Whqt are your opinions?
Hi there just a quick question. I’m planning to apply for 2012/13 placement. When do you think is the best time to apply?
@Rahul
Hi Rahul.
As with all jobs and placements, the sooner the better
I just saw your post on student room. I am struggling with the application could i get your email so i could ask you a small question. Thank you so much
Hey,
That’s a lot of information and quite useful. Thank you for sharing it.
I have my assesment on 31st of Jan. I have applied for a graduate programme and currently pursuing my Masters. Of what I have read about Extreme Blue programme it is mostly a one year placement programme. But The Software Development Graduate Programme I applied for stated that it was for 2 years and they are paying about £27,000. The email from IBM regarding my assement center date said that it is an “Exteme Blue Recruitment Day”. So, I am a bit confused now as to what exactly is it.
Any comments on this will be really helpful.
Many Thanks
Shw
Hi Shw,
The Extreme Blue programme is a summer placement only, not a one-year programme, and the graduate programme is a 2-year programme.
If they have referred to Extreme Blue in your email then either they have sent the email in error or your paperwork is indicating the wrong information. In any case, it’s best to contact the recruitment department who sent you the email to ask why this is the case. They will be able to help you better than I can.
Given how soon the day is, you might choose to call them instead. I’m afraid I don’t work in recruitment so I can’t say.
Good luck!
Hi Horatio,
Thanks for the reply!
I have the assesment (first round selection center) on Tue (31st Jan). Well in the email the subject is “First Round Selection” but on the selection day, on arriving at IBM reception they have asked me to mention that I am there for “Extreme Blue Recruitment Day”. So was a bit confused.
Thanks
Shw
This was a great guide and very useful. Thanks a lot for taking time to write this guide, I just got through to the matching process so fingers crossed I get a role!
Hey thanks for this detailed information. Did you not attend 2 ACs instead of 1. I think you just attended 1 Assessment Centre, am I right?
Yes that’s right. For the industrial placement you only attend one Assessment Centre
Quick question, HC. How long was the gap between you finding out you were in the matching process and being contacted again with a job offer?
Hi. I can’t quite remember, but it was less than 2 weeks (although it seemed like forever).
Don’t worry if it takes a while, I’m sure you’ll get a role :)
Thanks! That is a week past now, and I’m getting the “seems like forever” feeling. Fingers crossed I hear something soon.
Hi I’ve just received a email for the first round of selection which is the assessment centre i’m guessing, but its all on 30th April which is just before my uni exams im applying for a finance placement if I do pass that on their website it says i have a second interview so just wondering would it end up clashing with my exams or so within the first 2-3 weeks of may how soon do you find out after the assessment day? anybody else applying for 2012-2013 finance placements
I’m afraid I don’t know what the procedure is, you need to ask the HR people who offer you the assessment centres/interviews.
I’m sure they can make allowances for important cases such as exam clashes, email or call them if you’re concerned.
Hi,
Thanks for writing this blog, it was really informative.
I am in the matching process for IBM and was wondering how long it takes for them to get back to you? And what is the percentage of being rejected? Have you known anyone who has got to the matching process and not been offered the job?
Really frustrating playing the waiting game!
Thanks!
Hi Viktor,
My pleasure. As I say in my comment to Mark above, I can’t remember exactly how long it took me but I think it was within 2 weeks.
I don’t know about rejection and not being offered a job during matching. The only people I have met are the ones doing the placement who didn’t get rejected. However, I can’t imagine it’s anything to worry about.
Good luck! You’ve done well to make it here.
Thank you alot, great insight
Hi there, thanks for the guide, I’m at an early stage of the application process, I was wondering whether any of you knew what is wanted in the personal statement in the CV template and how long it should be, some tips would be greatly appreciated!
Hello, I have just been invited for the assessment centre process for the marketing industrial placement 2013/2014. I was wondering how long after, roughly, did you hear that you succeeded in this process? From what i gathered from the information on the website, it indicated that candidates will either be completing another form of IPAT test, or working in teams for complete projects etc. Does anybody know if i am right or if everyone must complete the IPAT test alongside all the other aspects such as team work etc.
P.S this was a wonderful and very helpful read, thank you
I got invited to the assessment centre for IBM, I wanted to ask you what type of questions do they ask in the interview as well as how do you prepare yourself well before the interview. Thanks
Even if I told you the questions I was asked in my interview it wouldn’t help you too much as each interviewer has a different style. However, the personal interview is very much a standard competency-based interview. If you search online you will find masses of information on this. “Tell me about yourself”, “Why do you want to work at this company”, “Why do you think you’re right for this role”. These are the very basic questions you can expect to be asked at every company and there weren’t any very tough questions in mine.
Do note that the “business interview” is an interview specific to the role you applied for. That is, if you’re going for marketing or software development, expect to be asked about those.
Hey, thanks for the guide. Ive passed the assessment center and they have sent me a job description and have given me an hour slot for a phone interview. Do you have any ideas what the interview will consist of?
I’m afraid I don’t know since I didn’t have a phone interview, but if I were you I would prepare in the same way as for the assessment centre. Good luck
Okay, thanks!
Great guide, thank you.
I’ve been invied to the assessment centre on the 25th for the IT placement year. They’ve asked me to do a ten minute presentation on what I can do for IBM and what IBM can do for me. Has anyone had any experience of doing this? Not totally sure what they expect.
How was it in the end?
I think you may have miscalculated on tax. Since the placement starts between July and September and the tax year runs from 6th April, only part of the salary is counted for the fiscal year you start working in, and the rest counts towards the next fiscal year.
I will assume you start work on July for 12 months and get paid on the 1st day of every month beginning August. This means that the money you earn for the fiscal year 2011/12 will be (£15,000/12)*9 = £11,250.
The personal allowance is £7475 meaning your taxable income for 2011/12 is £11,250 – £7475 = £3775. (I cannot be bothered to calculate the actual amount of tax, this is just to show you actually pay less tax than you orginally calculated).
The rest of your salary ((£15,000/12)*3 = £3750) will fall in the 2012/13 fiscal year and since it is under the personal allowance you actually don’t pay tax on this.
This means you only get taxed on £3775 not £8525.
You are correct, I was aware of this after writing the blog post but never got round to fixing it. This does mean that you pay a reasonable amount less tax overall (if you don’t do much other work within the two tax years in question). It’s worth noting for reference that you still pay the same amount of National Insurance since your weekly income does not change.
I don’t think it’s important enough to update the post but I hope your comment will help anybody interested, so thank you
I have had my final interview with IBM and I am waiting to hear back now, how long approximately until you hear back from the date of your interview? I am jumping at every email I receive!
What sort of questions did they ask you during your interview?
Great job, man!
Thank you so much.
That’s the most detailed description I found so far. Well done.
Wish more people will share their experience the same way.
Hello and thanks very much for this great guide!
I has my AC yesterday which also included a business interview and was told today that I’m through to the matching stage. Do you think that implies the woman who business interview-ed me didn’t like me? Or was it an automatic email sent to all successful applicants?
Wondering if anyone has had the same experience cos technically I had already been matched right??
Hi,
How well did people with an internship cope living in London with travel expenses?
Also point out, not all software development roles are in Hursley.
Hi,
I’m guessing your software development role was based in South Bank?
Hi, I just wanted to ask when you submitted your application for the IBM placement, they start taking applications in July so I just wanted to know when you submitted yours
I just want to say thanks for this Horatio!
Great post, thanks very much.
There are quite a few different industrial placements on offer at IBM. I found mine through RateMyPlacement & found some good information here: http://www.ratemyplacement.co.uk/it
Hi I just read your guide to the ibm application process. So I wanted to ask how did you prepare for the assessment day, what research did you do ? Thank you
Hi! I just wanted to know about how hard are the assessments that you have to do and also are there different ones for different programmes? I’m getting really worried on how I will pass the assessments.
That was defo helpfull….
I have a question.
I already passed my assessment center. It’s been 3 weeks, I have not got any email for an interview(matching process). Do you think its too late to get interviews?
Thanks
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possibly a biologist in the geographic area. You’re able to supply additional
items when the scholar gives regarding the individual they questioned
to a talk in class.